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PostSubject: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:46 pm

General morality thread, other, more specific threads will probably be made later, but for now, here we are. I think most of this will just be spillage from the religion thread. So, to start things off, I'll ask the timeless question: Will you kill someone you love, because of love?

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:21 pm

I'm going to take that question at face value and say no, I wouldn't kill someone because I love them.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:24 pm

So you would not pull the plug on, say, your mom, if she begged you for it and the alternative was a prolonged life of suffering, not to mention hefty hospital bills?

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:25 pm

Also, it isn't would you kill someone you love because you love them, it's would you kill someone you love, because of love. That can be other love, as in, your mom had a gun on your wife or something.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:33 pm

Edit more, and I know. I just wanted to say what I said, also if i had to choose between my mom and my wife it would more than likely be my wife. And if I had to pull the plug on someone it would depend on the state they were in.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:36 pm

I told you the state she was in. She was going to live a life of pain and misery and wanted you to end her out of benevolent mercy.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:39 pm

I would.
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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:43 pm

Oh yea, I completely forgot you had said that, but it's still just a maybe.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:57 pm

Well, forget you then, I'm moving on to Ariel. So, then Ariel, are you telling me it's okay to kill under certain circumstances?

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:16 am

Not to 'kill,' per se.
But if someone was laying on their deathbed, and is either going to die slowly, and painfully, or have the plug pulled now, and they WISH to have the plug pulled, I would do it. If it is truly love, than doing that wouldn't be a problem.
I was there when the plug was pulled on Addison. I felt like a piece of my heart was being pulled out too, but since the cancer was so far progressed, and he was in such agony, i felt no regrets or wishes that he would have lived longer. It would have been even more painful to me to have watched him suffer like that.
Is it right to kill under circumstances, no way,
but to end someone's agony if they have a terminal illness, then yes, upon their consent/wishes.
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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:23 am

And that raises the question: Is allowing a person to die the same as killing them? If you say no, then your previous point is invalidated, but if you say yes, then you're essentially saying that you never have a responsibility to step in on someone's behalf.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:30 am

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:30 am

One of the reason I didn't give a definitive answer.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:38 am

Brandon: Whether you answer me or not is unimportant to anything but the conversation. When the time arises, you'll have to make a decision, and then we'll see.


Ariel: You don't believe in protecting anyone, then?

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:41 am

And when the time arises I'll make the decision.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:46 am

of course I believe in protecting people, but there comes a time when I am not able to, and medicine is not able to help them anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:55 am

Why even post here if you're going to have that mindset? It throws the entire point out the window.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:00 am

Let me ask a new question. If you could kill one of your friends and it would save three people you had never met, would you?

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:52 am

Yes, depending on the friend and on if I knew anything about these people.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:12 am

ok, im lazy, im not reading all of that... yes i would under certain circumstances, yes it is ok to kill.
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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:18 pm

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Yes, depending on the friend and on if I knew anything about these people.
No offense, but you being in this thread is pointless, you never answer the question. Just answer it hypothetically, and then make a statement about what would be different depending on the circumstances.

For exapmle: No, I would never kill a friend to save three others because it is not my place to decide how much a human life is worth. That being the case, I can only say what a life is worth to me, and I would far rather have three faceless, nameless, storyless, strangers die than my friend. However, if my friend were asking me to kill him or her to save those three, I would respect his or her wishes and do it.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:20 pm

Yea, I know that already. I hate hypothetical questions since you don't know how you would respond even if you are given every circumstance. I'm just tired of not having anything to say to anything else and want to post somewhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:41 pm

Well then just answer it like I did, that was the point of the example.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:31 am

But that's no fun. On that note, I do feel pretty much the same way you do.

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PostSubject: Re: Morality, Will you kill someone you love, because of love?   Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:50 pm

If someone wants me to kill them, it depends on the circumstances. If my wife, Melissa, asked me to kill her, for whatever reason, I would at least talk to her first. If a wounded Marine asked me to kill him while in battle, I more than likely would. For me, it depends on the situation.
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